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江偉平DTM 專訪/Exclusive Interview with Webster Kiang

1. What kept you striving for the DTM? Did you encounter any difficulty during the process, and how did you overcome it? 
 

Webster:  I saw the value in those advanced manuals. For example, in project one of the interpersonal relations manual, it taught me how to make small talk with strangers at a party.  The projects illustrated that there are four levels of talks between two people.  The first level is small talk; you just talk about weather, news etc.  The second level is facts discussions; you talk about your job, etc.  The third level is discussing opinions.  And the fourth level is share your personal feeling about things.  During the role play, I easily reached level three, but, in my real life I spend fifty years only reached level 3 and still have not reached level 4.  I learned so much just in one project.  
 

Think about there are fifteen manuals each has five projects, a total of seventy five projects.  That is a rich treasure we can tap into.  So I delved into it by doing project-by-project to finish thirty projects.  
 

Of course there were difficulties. Due to my company travel requirements, there were times that I could not finish preparing my speeches.  I had to utilize time management techniques and relation building methods by visiting various clubs to take role assignments to gain friendship with other Toastmasters.  The secret for my fast-track advancement was that I served as my own Education Vice President, I scheduled five speeches of a manual in five different clubs within three month period.  In such a way, I was able to complete 10 speeches for each of the six month period.  If I had to wait my own club EVP to schedule speeches for me within just one club, there was no way I could advance so quickly.   
 

My suggestion to the junior members is that to buy the whole set of advanced manuals by discount as a Library Set.  That was what I did, I often read those project descriptions as novels during my spare time.  Just reading more project manuals, I could gain insights into a lot of various aspects of communication. 

2. Did you have any plan/strategy to get the DTM? 

Webster: The communication track is relatively straight forward, you just need to do thirty speeches, plus a few workshops.   

There are several milestones for the DTM on the leadership track.  One needs to be a club officer, as well as a District Officer for one term.  In addition , one needs to complete the High Performance Leadership Program, and to sponsor or be a mentor for a new club.  You need to be given those opportunities to serve.  Before you are given those opportunities, you may have to volunteer to do the assistant role for the District Officers to let people notice you.  
 

3. In your opinion, what are the benefits you see in the recognition of DTM?  

Webster: The fact that there are only 36 DTM's in The entire , this title is very prestige.  You will be given the opportunities to be invited to visit a lot of club meetings and roles.  It is your chance to pay back to the members who needs your guidance.  

 

4. Any advice for those members who would like to get the DTM but don't know how? 
 

Webster:  The requirements for DTM are listed as the two tracks for communications and leadership.  A lot of senior members will be able to answer any questions you may have on those requirements.  
 

It is my believe, that any member, if he or she sets his/her mind to complete a DTM. He/she will be able to reach it.  
 

5. What is your next goal after getting your DTM?  
 

Webster:  My next set of goals are : 1) to start participating in the Mandarin clubs on a dual member basis, and 2) to share my enthusiasm about Toastmasters in the community associations, like the Rotary Clubs, Universities, etc.  
 

6:  Did you get any help in your journey to DTM?  
 

Webster: Definitely, there are many DTMs and senior members who helped me along the way during the last two and half years.  They helped me not only to my club but also to my personal development in terms of guidance, counseling, answering questions and providing me with necessary documents and information.  Without those assistance, I would have to spend a long or detoured way of getting those information in achieve the goal.  

 

一、什麼原因驅動你拿到DTM資格?過程中,你是否遇到什麼困難?你如何克服?  

 

我看到在進階演講手冊當中所傳達的價值。例如,在個人關係這本手冊第一講中,其教導我如何在一場陌生人的聚會當中聊天。這個專案描繪指出在兩個人對談當中,可以看出人與人之間四種不同等級的關係;第一種等級是聊天,你只要聊聊天氣新聞等;第二種等級則是事實討論,談論你的工作等;第三個等級則是意見討論,最後一個等級則是分享個人感受。在角色演練當中,我輕易的達到第三等級,可是在我的實際生活當中,我則發費十五年才達到第三等級,而且我還沒有到達第四等級。但是,這個專案的演練卻讓我獲益匪淺。  

 

想想進階演講總共有十五本手冊,每本手冊有五個專案,這樣算下來就有七十五個專案,這簡直在告訴我們入寶山焉得空手回?!我立定心志,逐步完成三十個專案。

當然,遇到困難是一定的!由於我工作上必須常常出差,有些時候我沒有時間準備我的演講,我必須要善用時間管理技巧,透過拜訪不同分會,在會議中擔任不同的工作角色以建立關係。我的秘訣是我就是我自己的教育副會長,我為自己規劃在三個月內,分別到五個不同的分會,完成一本手冊當中的五個專案,如此一來,我就可以在六個月內完成十篇演講。如果我必須等我們分會的教育副會長幫我安排演講,那我可能就沒辦法在如此短的時間內完成了! 

 

我建議資淺的會友購買整套進階手冊,享有折扣,當作是圖書參考資訊。我個人就是這樣做。我常將那些手冊有空的時候當成小說來唸。唸越多手冊,我就可以得到更多不同層面的溝通啟發!  

 

二、你有任何計畫或策略以獲取DTM資格嗎? 

溝通這個層面是很清楚明瞭的,你只要完成三十篇演講以及作幾個研討會,就可以學到溝通的技巧。但在領導這個層面則有幾項里程碑。你必須擔任分會幹部與一任總會幹部。此外,你必須完成高階領導訓練課程,擔任新進分會的支持者或是學長。你必須要有機會服務會友。在你得到那些機會前,你也可以自願幫助總會幹部讓人們注意到你。
 

 

三、你認為取得DTM的價值是什麼? 

目前,全台只有三十六位
DTM,這是無上光榮的。你有機會受邀到不同的分會擔任不同角色。而這是很好的機會你可以回饋那些需要你指導的會友們。  

 

四、對於那些想要得到DTM資格的會友,您的建議為何?  

 

DTM所需具備的條件以名列於溝通與領導層面的手冊當中。很多資深會友都可以回答你可能有的疑問。 我個人認為任何想要拿到DTM資格的人,他/她一定能達成。  

 

五、得到DTM之後,您的下個目標為何?  

 

我的下個目標是:第一,除了英文會,我將加入中文會;第二,我想要跟一些社團分享我對演講會的熱愛,例如獅子會,大學等。  

 

六、在追求DTM資格的過程中,是否有得到任何人的協助?  

 

當然,有很多DTM與資深會友在過去兩年半中一路幫助我。他們不只幫助我的母會,也幫助我個人無論在指導諮詢回答問題,提供我必要的文件與資訊等。缺了他們的幫助,我可能要花費更多的時間或者繞遠路達成目標。  

 

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